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Bernat Baby Coordinates Knit Baby Afghan - pattern problem

Posted by: grace527 (IP Logged)
Date: April 20, 2009 10:25AM

I am attempting the green knit baby afghan pattern shown on the Lemon Custard Baby Coordinates yarn. I do not see a pattern number unless it is 166009, but Bernat describes it as a simple ripple pattern.

The pattern appears to work out but I end up coming up short by 2 stitches. My mother-in-law, who is an experiences knitter says there is a problem with the pattern.

Begin with 217 stitches (I'm not experiences with round knitting needles), so I started with 63 stitches and thought I would sew it together.

1st row: K4, *yfwd. K3. Sl1K K2tog. psso. K3. yfwd. K1. Rep from * to last 3 sts. K3. Mother says I'm doing stitches correctly.

2nd row: K3 - purl -K last 3 stitches

3rd row - same as 1st

4th row - knit

QUESTION: Has anyone made this afghan and did the pattern work right for you or did you figure out a problem.

Thank you for any suggestions.

Posted by: Sally J (IP Logged)
Date: April 20, 2009 10:46AM

I haven't made that particular pattern (at least not in recent memory). As far as I can see, it works out evenly, an increase for every decrease. The pattern is in multiples of 10, with a 3 stitch border on one side and a 4 stitch border on the other. Therefore, it should be a multiple of 10 and 7 more for the border. Try working 67 and see if it works better. Good luck!

Posted by: grace527 (IP Logged)
Date: April 20, 2009 07:13PM

thank you Sally. I still ended up 2 stitches short. I thinkit may be that I am dropping stitches when I do the purl row. But thanks again for the help. I intend to keep trying.

Posted by: craftsman (IP Logged)
Date: April 20, 2009 07:46PM

K4, *yfwd. K3. Sl1K K2tog. psso. K3. yfwd. K1. Rep from * to last 3 sts. K3.

Let's figure this out by doing the math to work the repeat section ONLY.

> "yfwd" does not use up a stitch (call it zero/0), but is a single increase so ADDS 1 st
> "k3" uses 3 sts
> "sl1 knitwise, k2tog, psso" uses 3 sts and ends up with 1, so is a double decrease and so SUBTRACTS 2 sts
> "k3" uses 3 sts
> "yfwd" does not use up a stitch (call it zero/0), but ADDS 1 st
> "k1" uses 1 st

So we use 0+3+3+3+0+1= 10 sts, and end up with 1+3+1+3+1+1= 10 sts. So far, so good.

Now let's look at the borders.

> At the beginning, the "k4" could be thought of as "k3 + k1": The first 3 sts are knit on both sides so they will appear as garter stitch. The "k1" is knit on the right side and purled on the wrong side, so it will appear as a single column of stockinette stitch.

> At the end of the row, the "k1" of the last repeat section will be purled on the wrong side, so it will appear as a single column of stockinette stitch (to make it symmetrical with the "k1" part of the initial "k4"). The last "k3" is knit on both sides, so those sts will appear as garter stitch, matching the border at the beginning of the row.

As Sally J pointed out, this pattern could be described as a repeat of 10 stitches plus 7. (I write it simply as 10x + 7.) If you want to completely separate the border stitches from the others, you could think of the pattern as a repeat of 10, plus 1 extra (that "k1" part of the initial "k4"), plus 6 border stitches (or, in my notation, 10x + 1 + 6 border).

Others have offered good suggestions, to which I agree:

(KT)> Making a practice piece is well worth the time. Cast on a repeat of 10 plus 7 sts. (In my notation, "x" represents the number of repeat sections, so you would cast on 10x + 7.) Include at least 3 repeats so you can see how the sections and transitions fit together.

> For 3 repeat sections (x=3), cast on 10*3 + 7 + 37
> For 4 repeat sections (x=4), cast on 10*4 + 7 = 47
> For 5 repeat sections (x=5), cast on 10*5 + 7 = 57...

By the way, using the original pattern:
> 217 = 10*21 + 7
so x=21, meaning you will have 21 repeat sections within the borders.

(ami)> It is common to use a circular needle for afghans because its flexible length can hold a large number of sts. Don't think of it as "circular", but as one l-o-n-g set of straight needles that are joined at the non-pointed end. Once you start knitting with it - remember, you'll be working in ROWS and turning as usual - you'll get the hang of it right away. (In fact, some people actually prefer circular needles for "straight" knitting.)

If you still have questions or problems, please feel free to post again (better to start a new thread rather than continue this one as it gets pushed back to earlier pages) and we'll do what we can to help you.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/20/2009 07:49PM by craftsman.

Posted by: grace527 (IP Logged)
Date: April 20, 2009 08:08PM

Wow! I feel so blessed to have found you all!

I am working with a large gauge yarn, 37 stitches as KT suggested now.

I think now, you all have helped so much that it will just take some practice before I start the large afghan now.

Posted by: KT (IP Logged)
Date: April 21, 2009 08:19AM

Grace527--

How wonderful that you are able to read out the patterns to your MIL so that she can continue with her knitting craft.

If you keep coming up short on stitches, it could be that those yarn overs are sliding off your needles without being worked. Those yarn overs, as Craftsman pointed out, create new stitches to compensate for the stitches that are taken away by the double decrease of Sl 1, k2tog, psso.

Posted by: grace527 (IP Logged)
Date: April 20, 2009 10:47AM

It would seem that part of the problem is that I'll have to use 31 stitches or the full 217 as 63 isn't divisible even though it works by the seven stitches in the 1st row.

I did previously try with 31 stitches but still came up short.

Posted by: KT (IP Logged)
Date: April 20, 2009 12:12PM

Grace527 --

Sally J advised you that this is a stitch pattern with a 10 stitch multiple plus 7 for the borders. She suggested trying it out on 67, not 63 stitches. If you wanted to work narrower strips, you would cast-on 37 stitches.

I would suggest trying out this stitch pattern on a large gauge swatch with 37 stitches so you can see how the stitch pattern works. I would then cast-on the 217 stitches required by the pattern since having all those border stitches in between your strips will change the look of the blanket greatly.

Why does your mother think there is a problem with the pattern? Is it that your count is working out but it doesn't look like the picture? No offense meant to your mother but some very experienced, highly skilled knitters are not very good at reading or interpreting written patterns. They learned with either verbal directions or simply seeing a pattern and written patterns have their own "language."

Posted by: ami (IP Logged)
Date: April 20, 2009 05:41PM

You wrote that "I'm not experiences with round knitting needles".

You really should try knitting this on a circular needle. The length will allow you to follow the pattern using 217 stitches.

You will just be using each pointed end as if it were a straight needle and working back and forth in rows.

You might also find it helpful to use stitch markers between each of the 10 stitch repeats. If you should happen to make a mistake, you should be able to discover it before you get much further.

Posted by: grace527 (IP Logged)
Date: April 20, 2009 07:26PM

Thanks, I'll try out your suggestion.

My mother-in-law is saying there is a problem because we have both been trying to work the pattern for 3-4 days now. She says it doesn't work out based on the count. (She counted multiples of 9; I got 7; Sally got 10). So I'm trying all suggestions. This really appears to be a beautiful blanket from the photo on the yarn and at the website.

However, my mother-in-law has macular degeneration and it is very difficult for her to see. If I read the pattern for her though, she can do the stitches. She originally came from Switzerland, and was a Nanny in England during WWII where she taught knitting and crochet along with other subjects to the children she watched over. She is familiar with the European and U.S. abbreviations and will soon be 90.

We also went to the Bernat website and looked up the abbreviations to make sure they were interpreting as she did. Based on all this, I still feel it is not the pattern, but my ineptness that is causing the problem, but will keep trying.

Thanks again.

Posted by: retired (IP Logged)
Date: April 23, 2009 07:25AM

Please help,
I'm tryin' to learn the wavy stitch. It's a Crochet stitch, suppose to be easy.. I'm just startin' out. Thank's a heap, if you can help. Sincerely, Mrs. L.P.

How do I make that st. ?

In this case it's the same as a yo (yarn over). Just take the yarn to the front and then back over the right needle. This will give you an extra stitch with a hole underneath.