socks: short-row heels

Posted by: craftsman (IP Logged)
Date: April 30, 2009 01:32PM

I'm learning to knit socks. (I'm making bed socks for practice, because no one will see them under the blanket).

But I haven't found a method for short row heels that gives results I'm happy with. I've tried methods from various web sites: wrap, no-wrap, double-wrap, knit through back loop, knit together and "make 1", etc. Sometimes there are holes, sometimes one side looks good but the other doesn't... I'm just not satisfied so far.

I'd like to hear from experienced sock knitters about your method for short-row heels and what works best for you. Thanks.

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Posted by: KT (IP Logged)
Date: April 30, 2009 05:50PM

I use the yarn over method that Priscilla Gibson-Roberts has in her tooks Simple Socks: Plain and Fancy. I find it faster than doing those wraps and I've gotten to the point where I don't find it fiddly to re-seat my yarn overs when I do the k3tog and the p3tog tbl. They do create what look like "holes" but are actually more like dimples along the decrease/increase line.

The trick to this short row is to make sure you do the short yarn over to minimize the amount of yarn in that yarn over.

I remember one time reading a posting on the Socknitters list by someone who said they figured that the wrap short row took the most amount of yarn, the yarn over short row the second most, and the Japanese Short Row -- I believe this is where you pick-up the running strand between stitches -- the least amount of yarn.

Are you using worsted weight for your bed socks? If so, I suggest trying some short row swatches with fingering and DK weight yarn because you may find the short row looks neater with the finer yarns.

If you haven't gone to socknitters.com there's a wealth of information there. Also, the socknitters group on Yahoo has a great deal of short row sock information in both its files and archives. Priscilla Wild has what she calls a no wrap short row -- I've seen videos of her technique but don't remember where. There's also a heel called the Sherman heel and the Strong heel that people have used for short rowing.

I've found a heel a like, that doesn't take a great deal of thinking on my part so I've stuck with it.

Posted by: Alex (IP Logged)
Date: May 01, 2009 06:01PM

Have you seen this:
[www.cosmicpluto.com]
(double-wrap technique)

Posted by: craftsman (IP Logged)
Date: May 03, 2009 10:31AM

Thanks for your help.

KT, I have the book you mentioned and used that method, but didn't like it at the time. Maybe I'll give it another chance, and with different yarn(s), as you suggested.

Alex, that was one site I hadn't seen before and I'll try that method next. (Maybe I have been doing the purl row incorrectly, causing one side to look different than the other.)

I think I'll have to do what some others have done: knit up sample of various HEELS ONLY, to see how each different method works and decide which I want to use.

Funny, when I first learned to bake bread, I made two loaves at the same time and got results I liked right away, without having to practice the heels separately. (I wonder if the fiber made the difference?) LOL

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/05/2009 07:07AM by craftsman.

Posted by: Mother Hen (IP Logged)
Date: May 03, 2009 02:34PM

craftsman Wrote:
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Funny, when I first learned to bake
> bread, I made two loaves at the same time and got
> results I liked right away, without having to
> practice the heels separately. (I wonder if the
> fiber made the difference?) LOL

Hey Craftsman >
That was a real Side Buster Statement > You do have many talents !!
Thanks for the laugh !!

Mother Hen <><
" Creating Is A God Thing

Posted by: Alex (IP Logged)
Date: May 03, 2009 12:33PM

Well, I've known some heels in my time and none of them have been the same. Although, come to think of it, they have shared one characteristic - they all lacked moral fiber.

Posted by: craftsman (IP Logged)
Date: May 05, 2009 07:16AM

I've been under a lot of stress lately, so it's good to be able to joke and laugh with friends, even if we've only met online. Thanks...

Posted by: KT (IP Logged)
Date: May 05, 2009 09:59AM

Feel sorry for me Craftsman -- I finally got the pun.

Posted by: Alex (IP Logged)
Date: May 06, 2009 12:48PM

Glad to have added to the stress relief, craftsman. I can't resist pun play. You may have noticed this over the many years (nearly a decade now) that we've been cyber pals.

How is your recovery coming along?